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The Catholic Church is indefectable. The Catholic Church , in Her teaching, Worship... Holy Sacrifice of the Mass...cannot change in Her essence. So the Church in Rome, the Catholic Church, looks like Catholic Church which is a remnant, virtually no property, no pope, hidden

Interesting: this is how Catholics knew there was another Church that started with John XXIII

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wcvfe4zJ-TQ

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